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 Plato. Plato in Twelve Volumes, Vol. 9 translated by W.R.M. Lamb. Cambridge, MA, Harvard University Press; London, William Heinemann Ltd. 1925.  Plato. Plato in Twelve Volumes, Vol. 9 translated by W.R.M. Lamb. Cambridge, MA, Harvard University Press; London, William Heinemann Ltd. 1925. 
  
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-And by Zeus, Socrates, Aspasia, by your account, deserves to be congratulated if she is really capable of composing a speech like that, woman though she is. +And by Zeus, Socrates, Aspasia, by your account, deserves to be congratulated if she is really capable of composin
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-Nay, then, if you are incredulous, come along with me and listen to a speech from her own lips. +
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-I have met with Aspasia many a time, Socrates, and I know well what she is like. +
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-Well, then, don't you admire her, and are you not grateful to her now for her oration? +
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-Yes, I am exceedingly grateful, Socrates, for the oration [249e] to her or to him—whoever it was that repeated it to you; and what is more, I owe many other debts of gratitude to him that repeated it. +
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-That will be fine! Only be careful not to give me away, so that I may report to you later on many other fine political speeches of hers. +
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-Have no fear: I won't give you away; only do you report them. +
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-Well, it shall be done. +
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-1 Aspasia of Miletus, famous as the mistress of the Athenian statesman Pericles (circa 430 B.C.). +
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-2 Antiphon, born in 480 B.C., was the first of the ten great Attic Orators. +
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-3 Athena and Poseiden, see Ovid, Met. 6.70 ff. +
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-4 i.e. “rule of the best.” +
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-5 A reference to the “Archons,” one of whom was called Basileus（“King”). +
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-6 Eumolpus, a Tracian bard and chieftain, son of Poseidon, said to have aided the Eleusinians in invading Attica. +
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-7 The Amazons, a race of female warriors in Pontus, said to have attacked Athens and been driven back to Asia by the hero Theseus. +
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-8 i.e. in the war of “the Seven against Thebes” (of which city Cadmus was the founder). +
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-9 The Athenians aided “the sons of Heracles” against Eurystheus, King of Tiryns in Argolis. +
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-10 Cyrus overthrew the Medes in 559, and reigned till 529 B.C. +
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-11 Cambyses, son of Cyrus, 529-522 B.C. +
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-12 Cf. Hdt. v. 99 ff.;Laws iii. 698 C ff. The expedition of Datis took place in 490 B.C. +
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-13 These battles took place during Xeres' invasion of Greece in 480 B.C. +
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-14 At Plataea the Persians under Mardonius were defeated in 479 B.C. +
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-15 The Athenians, under Cimdon, defeated the Persian forces, both by land and sea, at the river Eurymedon, in Pamphylia, in 468 (cf. Thucyd. i. 100). +
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-16 These naval operations (against Persia) took place about 461-458 B.C. +
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-17 B.C. 457. +
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-18 Oenophyta was fought two months after Tanagra, Thucyd. i. 108. +
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-19 i.e. Sphacteria. These events took place in 425 B.C., the seventh year of the Peloponnesian War. +
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-20 The second Sicilian expedition took place in 413 B.C. +
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-21 This is an exaggeration if the occasion is that mentioned in Thucyd. viii. 9 ff., when ten empty ships were captured. But possibly the reference is to the victory at Cyzicus, B.C. 410, when sixty ships were taken or sunk. +
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-22 This refers to the Spartan treaty with Tissaphernes, B.C. 412, and the subsequent cooperation of the Persians against Athens. +
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-23 The battle of Mytilene was fought in 407 B.C. +
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-24 At the battle of Arinusae, 406 B.C., twenty-five ships' crews were lost. +
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-25 i.e. the oligarchical party at Athens who held sway for about eighteen months (404-403 B.C.) till ousted by the democrats under Thrasybulus. +
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-26 These formed part of the terms exacted by the Spartans after the battle of Aegospotami, B.C. 405. +
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-27 e.g. the Athenian Conon became a Persian admiral and operated against the Spartans, 395-390 B.C. +
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-28 i.e. the Ionian Greeks, whom the Spartans offered to hand over to the Persians in 392 B.C. +
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-29 This refers to “the King's Peace” (or Peace of Antalcidas) of 387-386 B.C. +
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-30 The Corinthian oligarchs were supported by the Spartans, against whom the Athenians fought in 393-392. +
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